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BBS: TSI 515-282 1642
Date: 04-26-93 (10:59)
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: MIKE SULLIVAN
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This is TRUE Censorship.!!!!!
Date: 03-28-93 FROM: Linda Thompson
[Linda Thompson is an attorney from Indianapolis.]
Well, John Baird and I went down to Waco last Friday, March 19. We filed a
petition to allow David Koresh to have access to an attorney or for an
attorney to have access to David Koresh, citing a lot of Supreme Court law
that says a person is in custody when they are no longer free to leave the
presence of police and that the person has a 5th Amendment (Miranda v.
Arizona) right to counsel when in custody.
The Judge, Walter Smith, Jr., of the U.S. District Court, Western District,
Waco Division, would not read or hear the motion on Friday or over the
weekend and finally, at close of business Monday, gave us an order that
literally had pages that were xeroxed from another order in it.
He had previously denied seven petitions filed on behalf of Koresh and 6
others by other attorneys -- using the SAME order.
We petitioned for an expedited appeal to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals
in Louisiana and got turned down three times by Thursday.
While we were there, we saw a lot of interesting things.
The ONLY news coming out of Waco comes from two places:
(1) Every day at 10:30, the FBI, by a guy named Ricks, holds a "press
conference" at the convention center. Whatever the FBI wants told, that's
what gets told and that's ALL that is reported across the country, period.
(2) The only other source of "news" comes from reporters who are living in
RV's alongside one of the roads coming out of the retreat area. If anyone
leaves the area (i.e., the people who have left in the past few weeks),
they are paraded in open cars past this string of reporters by the FBI on
their way to the FBI command post center, so reporters sometimes can take a
picture of it. That's all.
HOWEVER, interestingly enough, CNN seems to be able to get in or at least
get film footage up close of the compound, though no one else can.
Also, I know for a fact that CNN made at least two false reports the week
we were down there and the reports were directly from the FBI itself.
===
Walter Smith, Jr., the judge who used the same order to deny 8 different
petitions on behalf of people inside the retreat has also done the
following:
(1) Allowed arraignments of people coming out of the compound to be held
in secret. At least one woman, Schroeder, was arraigned and then held as a
material witness. This means they didn't have enough evidence on her to
charge her with anything, but they kept her in jail anyway. Everyone else
coming out of the compound is in jail as a "material witness", too, and
they aren't allowed to talk to anyone.
(2) Sealed the probable cause affidavits and search warrants that were
supposedly the ones the BATF was serving on day one. He is very likely the
same judge, or his magistrate, Green, who signed the order. There are no
other federal judges in Waco and Green is the only magistrate (sort of a
semi- judge who is picked by and works for the judge).
===
The FBI took out the entire lawfirm of Thompson and Baird for about 2 hours
Saturday night, March 20th and the saga goes like this:
Gary Hunt, who we now know to be a paid government informant but didn't
know at the time, John (Baird, my partner) and I decided to go into the
press area at Waco. We also had decided that Hunt would cross the second
road block inside the press area. He would promptly be arrested and we
would take pictures of his arrest and challenge it on a First and Fourth
Amendment basis, along with violation of state law and the 10th Amendment.
Our AEN press passes and driver's licenses were checked and passed at the
first road block. The guards there, mostly state police, were pretty nice,
friendly, etc. and even posed for pictures. They trotted out the BATF
"bomb dog", a golden labrador retreiver that had a sign on his back that
said "ATF Agent." The dog was quite friendly, complacent, and sleepy. I
got a few pictures of all this. As I was taking pictures, the State Police
repeatedly said to the dog (just kidding) "FBI agent, boy, sic 'em!!!" and
laughed.
We went down into the press area, which was a major bore. There was
absolutely nothing going on except press RV's parked up and down the road
and a few cameras on tripods, taking pictures of every car coming out of
the retreat.
Interestingly, the government cars often had no tags.
We passed out three copies of a press release that announced what we were
doing to a couple of reporters. One reporter who knew me walked up and
said, "Oh so we have legal counsel tonight." I told him, no, I was there
as a press member at that time and briefly mentioned AEN.
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The camera had an auto rewind on it and it was rewinding it's little wheels
off. He couldn't see what I was doing because it was too dark inside the
car and I got the film out and put it and the other two rolls behind the
glove box in the dash -- not IN the glove box, BEHIND it. Shortly, the
state policeman-in-charge came back and told us to step out of the car and
put our hands on the car. They searched Gary and John . . . but NOT ME.
Snort. Of all the people likely to be carrying . . .well, nevermind.
So then we had to stand around in the 35 degree weather for another half-
hour or so, waiting on "The FBI" to arrive.
After we got out of the car, the police started shining flashlights in. The
short, dumpy neanderthal kgBATF agent went around to the passenger door of
the car and opened it. I repeatedly stated that he did NOT have my
permission to search the car, LOUDLY. He picked up my purse off the floor
and dumped it in the seat and then he got Gary's camera from the backseat
and opened it and took the film out.
Gary called out to him repeatedly, "That's the wrong camera, that's not the
film." Ahem.
So then he found my camera and opened it and said, "Where's the film." To
which I replied that there wasn't any (anyone could see that). So then he
told Gary to quit lying. hahaha. Told you he was stoopid.
So I asked the Texas state policeman bringing up my rear (we all had a
triage of our own personal police, front, back and side) if he had sworn an
oath to uphold the Constitution. He crossed his arms and looked far away,
and nodded imperceptably. So then I asked him if he had ever READ it, to
which he didn't reply.
About two minutes later, as I put out a cigarette on the ground, the state
policeman pointed to it and said, loudly, "YOU'RE LITTERING IN TEXAS!" (Oh,
shit, big trouble now, fer sure.) So I picked it up. I gave it to Gary. I
asked the nice policeman if his name was Ody or if he'd ever been to
Alice's Restaurant and wasn't that in Texas?
So then the state-policeman-in-charge says the FBI has arrived and tells us
to pull the car off to the side of the road by the big tent. All this
time, we've been quite a spectacle in the middle of the road. Remember,
this is a PRESS exit and plenty of press had passed by . . . and stopped,
and we now, thankfully, had lots of film rolling in our direction.
The state-policeman-in-charge says, "They're going to question you one at a
time, who wants to go first?" So I said I did.
Before we had embarked on this adventure, John and I had discussed whether
or not the night's planned events might bring the FBI out of the woodwork,
because we had not been able to serve a copy of the legal papers on the
head FBI agent (they were avoiding us, but that's another story). So I had
taken a copy of the paperwork from the Court with me, just in case we
happened to actually run into an FBI agent. I took that in with me for my
"questioning."
The tent was off to the side of the roadblock. Inside, it was warm. There
were four metal chairs in a semi-circle, with an FBI agent on each end of
the semi-circle. I sat down in the middle. A bunch of state policemen came
in. The atmosphere was clearly one of "We're the big boys and we're gonna
show you how it's done, fellas" (from the FBI side) and the State Troopers
were dead-pan but smirking as things progressed.
First, the agents both stuck their ID badges RIGHT in my face and said they
were FBI (deep tone of voice, for effect). Gee, was I ever intimidated
(not).
So I asked Agent Callaghan (it said so on his ID) if he was going to see
Jeff Jamar, the officer in charge of FBI operations, later in the day. He
said he was, so I handed him the envelope with the legal papers in it. He
opened it and looked at the court documents and said, "Where'd you get this
official seal?"
Duh.
So I patiently explained that the good clerks at the federal district
courts often seem compelled to stamp legal pleadings with an official
looking seal that they apparently have on hand for whenever the mood hits
them, and that it seemed to happen most regularly whenever I filed a
LAWSUIT against somebody.
Duh.
So then Agent Caballo, who had been steadily writing down all the
information from my Avis rent-a-car paperwork, my AEN press badge, and my
driver's license, said, "How come your driver's license number doesn't
match the Avis car paperwork?" I didn't have a clue, honestly. So I told
him to ask Avis, I didn't have a clue. So he said my Avis paperwork was
phoney.
So next, Callaghan says our press badges were phoney, too, to which I
replied they were not, that I was a member of a legitimate electronic news
service. So he wanted to know where I got the badge and I said the same
place CBS, NBC and every- other-body gets theirs. To which he said,
"Where?" And I said, "That's your job, you find out."
So about that time, I figured it was time for Doc Thompson's Constitutional
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After John andI were "detained for questioning", the next day, we got the
film developed and lo and behold, my picture of the kgBATF agent pointing
his MP5 machine gun at us, his finger plainly on the trigger, the safety
off, was good as gold. We got it blown up to an 11" x 14" and we've been
showing it to all the news media who will film it, which is quite a few
so far. It shows up REALLY well on camera, too.
And I also tried to file criminal charges against him with the local
sheriff's office. The lower ranking officers wanted to do it and said what
happened was illegal, but the report taking was assigned to a Lt. Larry
Lynch who refused to take a report and told me to see the DA personally on
Monday if I wanted to do that.
So we're filing a lawsuit instead for the illegal search and seizure.
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The BATF and FBI each have their own command-headquarters building, about
three buildings apart from one another, over on a small airstrip owned by:
CHRYSLER TECHNOLOGIES.
Chrysler technologies is a defense contractor and it led John to speculate
that perhaps the Chrysler buyout was even more of a sellout than it
appeared.
The FBI's building was surrounded by a chain link fence, with one driveway
into it, with a guard post and two-three guards manning it at all times.
The guards at the guard post all looked like rent-a-cops or national guard.
The FBI set up was on the edge of the runway.
There's a big airplane hangar and sticking out of the door of the hangar
was the tail end of a camouflaged C5A transport plane. We also saw two
plain white, absolutely no markings, small jets, along with two Move-Cargo
(blue star on the tail) jets (Move-cargo, I think, is supposed to be a
freight service, but it sure smells a lot like "Air America". Oh well).
Back into the area a long ways (we couldn't get close) there was a very
pretentious, foreboding looking building, one story, with a LOT of lights
around the outside of it, that was probably where they have been taking all
the people that came out of the Waco retreat for "questioning" before
taking them to jail.
We saw two BLACK helicopters on three different days, flying, landing, and
landed. They *do* reflect light funny and they show up on a movie camera
film as sort of a dull black-green, but they most definitely are a flat
black in person. There is small red printing back on the tail section that
I couldn't read and on the top of the very front, there is a very bright,
almost flourescently bright, green patch with a bit of white swirled in it.
I haven't a clue what that is or what it means or why it's there. One of
the helicopters was flying map-of-the-earth and practicing strafing
patterns when we saw it flying.
The kgBATF didn't rate the fancy digs. Their building is a cement block
one-story building up the road, no fence around it. All they have is two
kgBATF agents in their private cars hanging out at the driveway coming in
off the road. We didn't even know they were guards and drove right by
them.
On Friday, there were no other vehicles other than POV's (privately owned
vehicles) or obviously military or fed unmarked cars. On Saturday, though,
there was a "US Department of the Treasury" BOMB truck at the BATF
headquarters and a large firetruck at the FBI headquarters. We thought
sure the shit was going to hit the fan then but it didn't.
I got a few pictures of all of this, including the black helicopters.
** End of article **
Thank you Bruce Hancock for providing this informative article! ---
SECOND ARTICAL PRESENTED ON INTELEC BY MIKE SULLIVAN.....
BBS: TSI 515-282 1642
Date: 04-26-93 (10:47) Number: 23742
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: MIKE SULLIVAN
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Col. Bo Gritz, who talked Randy Weaver out of his plywood 'mountain fortre
in Idaho (fortress fed's description in federal court last week), said on
For The People this week about CS:
'I think they (feds) intended to burn the Branch Davidian out.'
Col. Gritz, a commander of Special Forces in Vietnam, said the feds WERE
truthful in saying they didn't use a pyrotechnic to administer the CS2
because they didn't use ignitable canisters, but with the method used, 'You
put a tremendous amount of particle activity in the air that carry the CS
gas. It is not tear gas. It is a war gas. It is 80-times more powerful than
CN, the tear gas. You don't do anything rational like run upstairs, grab
your babies and run outside, like the FBI said. With CS gas, you cannot
breathe, your eyes clamp shut involuntarily, you panic. It is a combination
of vomiting gas alongwith tear gas.
'As a special forces operative, we are trained to destroy things like
factories or large buildings like the Branch Davidian, by first of all
dispersing dust into the air space. And then any kind of a charge, whether
it be a spark or a small demolition will completely take down in a giant
conflagration anything that is standing there.'
More later, my time running out.
Col. Bo Gritz
Center for Action
652 N. Glenview
Mesa AZ 85213.
From Chuck Wharton, Houston.
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=== Repost from Fidonet Civ_Lib ===
* Original: FROM: Linda Thompson * Original: TO: All * Original: AREA:
AEN NEWS
* Forwarded by Linda Thompson * Forwarded Using QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr *
Forwarded at 02:46 on 21-Apr-93
Words can't express the sickness, horror and outrage I felt, watching
an army tank bash holes in the walls of the house at Mt. Carmel Monday,
April 19, 1993 -- exactly 50 years after the Nazis burned the Warsaw
ghetto. And all the while, the FBI's personal buffoon, Ricks,
sanctimoniously made claims that this was done to "urge" the people to come
out, that the FBI was "concerned about child abuse" because of the
"conditions the children were living in."
What utter and total baldfaced lies.
The holes were bashed in the sides of the building, not to introduce
CS gas, so much as to make sure the house was well ventilated, so that the
fire would spread rapidly.
I have received reports from no less than 15 people across the country
who saw on the TV footage, two men in black uniforms, wearing gas masks,
set the fire.
I personally saw an incendiary fly through into the second story
window.
Three others reported seeing footage where the tank drove over a gas
tank, exploding it.
I represent several family members and Branch Davidians. I have talked
with several Branch Davidians.
They are not glazed over moonie-type crazies. They are well educated,
articulate, very nice people. All of them had normal jobs outside the Mt.
Carmel Center. None of them believed they were under David Koresh's
"control." All of them said they were free to leave whenever they wanted.
One of them said that there was no "suicide" -- that no one from the
Branch Davidians set the fire at all and didn't know it was coming.
And the real story follows.
* Original: FROM: Linda Thompson * Original: TO: All * Original: AREA:
AEN NEWS
* Forwarded by Linda Thompson * Forwarded Using QuickBBS 2.76 Ovr *
Forwarded at 02:46 on 21-Apr-93
Most of you have seen our earlier accounts of Waco while the Branch
Davidians were under seige and know from the TV news what the conditions
were there.
The news media was kept 3 miles from the Mt. Carmel Center by armed
guards at all roads into the compound. And the media dutifully reguritated
whatever tripe the FBI fed them each day at 10:30, calling it "news" as
they slandered the Branch Davidians, spreading lies of "child molesting",
"planned mass suicide", and "religious whackos in Waco." ---
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No matter, sensationalism sells newspapers, doesn't it? It gets those
network ratings up, too. It wouldn't be a story if they told the truth.
The FCC might shut down a network or two or yank a permit. Better that 100
people should die in an inferno than expose the depths of the depravity of
the leaders of this country.
Well, the FBI lied and so have the major media throughout this entire
ordeal. Here's the real story:
In 1992, Sheri Jewel and her ex-husband were in a custody battle over
their daughter, Keri. Sheri was a Branch Davidian and she was killed in
the fire Monday.
Her ex-husband is a radio announcer. His wife is a TV personality. They
have money.
A fellow named Mark Breault, who is reputed to have a felony record,
used to be a Branch Davidian. He proclaimed himself to be a prophet. After
awhile, he tried to take over the Mt. Carmel compound and was ousted by
David Koresh. Breault, an Australian, left, vowing revenge. He often
called the compound daily to harrass the members.
The Jewel's hired Mark Breault to testify in their custody dispute. In
an affidavit, Breault made allegations of child molestation and religious
weirdness. This was in Michigan in 1992.
Senators were contacted to investigate these allegations, as was the
"Cult Awareness Network." The Cult Awareness Network is a group in
Washington, D.C., headed by the wife of late Senator Ryan who was killed at
Jonestown. She has a personal vendetta, too. And she wields a lot of power
in Washington, apparently, because if someone ends up on her cult hit list,
they frequently end up dead.
The allegations of child molestation were investigated in the intervening
two years, twice, by Texas welfare department authorities and found to be
baseless.
The Sheriff's department investigated the allegations of illegal guns and
these claims were found to be baseless. The investigations were peaceful.
There were no problems.
Mark Breault, however, continued to make his baseless and slanderous
allegations against the Branch Davidians. The Cult Awareness Network
turned up the pressure.
The newspapers called Breault a "private investigator who has tracked the
Davidians for two and a half years." "Tracked"? They had lived at the Mt.
Carmel Center since 1935. How much "tracking" did it take? "Investigator"?
Ha.
He's a self- proclaimed "prophet" with a vendetta against the Branch
Davidians. And who paid him so handsomely that he could afford to "track"
them for 2-1/2 years, anyway? Did the media bother to check any of this
out? Never.
You may remember that in the first few days the Branch Davidians were
under seige, they hung a sheet outside the window that said, "Send in Don
Stewart, CFA and Ron Ingleman." I now know all these people pretty well by
phone.
Don Stewart says he is a former paid informant and hired assasin for the
BATF. He named dates, times, and places, and detailed a secret hit squad
operated under the BATF by a man code-named "Wolfgang" (whose name he
identified to me). He claims this secret hit squad killed a fellow named
Tomassi in California, a religious leader called the Bogwan Rashnesh Shari,
and provided the weaponry to the woman named Moore who tried to shoot
President Ford, driving her through guards to get her in place. They took
her children to keep her quiet. He also says that John Wayne Hearns, the
man who ran the ad in Soldier of Fortune magazine as a hired hitman that
got Soldier of Fortune sued when he actually carried out a hired murder for
someone, was a paid operative. Congressional records show that a man named
Dirk Stoffberg was another such operative, who was a hired assassin of our
government and also ran guns and cocaine in and out of the country. Don
Stewart is now on the run from the BATF, living in an RV with his family.
If even a 10th of his information is true, it is a sorry, sorry tale of the
depravity existing at the highest levels of our government. ---
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CFA -- the Constitutional Foundational Association, was started by Greg
Sali and Bill Griffith, to expose the true story in Waco. They are also now
working to establish common law courts throughout the country to put
corrupt judicial officials and politicians behind bars, where they belong.
Together with Ken Fawcett, they have collected over 300 hours worth of
videotapes of the initial onslaught. People who have studied these tapes
in slow motion say that they show that the BATF agents who were killed
going in through the second story window were killed by friendly fire and
their own frag grenade. When they got inside the window, they were in a 10
x 10 room that had a locked steel door. They couldn't get out. They were
hit by friendly fire and trapped in the room when the frag grenade went
off.
One Branch Davidian, Mike Schroeder, left the Mt. Carmel compound that
morning to go to work as usual. He passed by agents who never stopped him.
He didn't learn of the initial seige until later that day. When he tried
to return home, he was shot in the back as he climbed a fence. His body
was left hanging on the fence for days, as his wife and child could see him
there, from inside the house. The government finally moved his body, using
a grappling hook from a helicopter, at night, to drop it into a nearby
field, where it was chewed by wild dogs and buzzards beyond recognition as
a human being.
Another man was shot and his body was left up on the water tower for
days by the government and it, too, was dropped to the ground at night by a
helicopter, leaving pieces to be scraped up from the ground.
The two old ladies who came out of the compound with the children said
that all the children had been in an upstairs room when they were suddenly
fired upon by helicopters through the roof the day of the seige. They
covered the children with their own bodies to protect them. These old
ladies were charged with murder and held in jail. Eventually, they were
put under arrest as material witnesses and held in a half-way house out of
the city.
While the FBI was claiming to be urging the Branch Davidians to
surrender, FBI spokesperson Ricks announced on Friday, April 17th, that
anyone who came out would be considered a threat to the BATF agents and
would be shot. Shots and percussion grenades were fired at a person who
tried to leave through a window that day and at Steve Schneider. Ricks
said that Steve Schneider had "abused his privileges" and had to be taught
a lesson.
For 51 days, the FBI tortured the people inside the Mt. Carmel center.
All utilities, including sanitation, were cut off. Loudspeakers were set up
all around the house to blare sounds 24-hours a day, including the sounds
of rabbits being slaughtered, the sound a phone makes when it is left off
the hook, Tibetan monk chants, jet airplanes, babies crying, and songs such
as "these boots are made for walking" and Christmas carols.
Stadium lights were set up to keep the place lit up 24 hours a day.
Military tanks, including M1 Abrams and Bradley's, were brought in and
rapidly circled the house, firing percussion grenades, continuously. The
tanks would charge up to the house and then stop within feet of the house
repeatedly.
Black helicopters flew overhead. Two huey gunships also flew over
frequently, guns mounted in front.
Around the 40th day of the seige, David Koresh announced that the
children and babies were out of milk. Two relief efforts to bring baby
food to the Mt. Carmel compound were turned back. Two people, one of them
Gary Spaulding from South Bend, Indiana, were arrested for trying to take
the food past a roadblock. When I posed the direct question to the FBI
headquarters, "Has it come to this? Does the United States government want
babies to starve to death?" The answer was, verbatim, "Yes." An ATF agent,
in a pickup truck that said "Wild Bill" on the side, stole the food, too.
And to that agent, and every state trooper, every BATF agent, and every FBI
agent who prevented those children from receiving food, you are murderers.
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And how did the BATF account for what it did when it assaulted the
Branch Davidians? Did it offer to show the American public the search
warrant they claimed to have? No. In fact, the search warrant and probable
cause affidavit, if they existed at all, were "sealed" by court order. A
court order from the same judge who apparently signed it in the first
place.
The same judge, Walter Smith, Jr., of the Waco Division, Western U.S.
District Court in Waco, denied eight petitions for relief filed by various
lawyers seeking to order the FBI and BATF to be made to follow the law and
the United States Constitution. The government never once filed a single
paper in opposition to any of these motions. There was clear, controlling
Supreme Court law that required that these petitions be granted. The judge
had no legal reason to deny them, yet he did. And he used the same order,
nearly a xerox, to deny all of them. Walter Smith, Jr., you are a
murderer.
Walter Smith is the same judge who allowed arraignments of people who
left the compound to be held in secret. When there was not sufficient
probable cause to hold them under arrest, he allowed them to be detained in
jails as "material witnesses."
And this same judge is the only judge in that division, where all the
remaining Branch Davidians, now facing "murder" charges, will be put on
trial.
After the BATF and FBI learned that the American Justice Federation had
released a press release stating that the use of military troops against
United States citizens violated federal law, specifically, the Posse
Comitatus act at the BATF released a cover story, claiming that the tanks
were "really" not Army, they were national guard, and had been brought in
under the "Drug interdiction act" because they had heard there was a
"methamphetamine lab" -- three weeks after the FBI had already publicly
announced there was never any question whatsoever of drug involvement.
Governor Ann Richards of Texas, who authorized the use of the tanks,
claimed she had been tricked. But she still did not order the tanks to be
withdrawn. Ann Richards, you are a murderer.
Each day, secret horrors were perpetuated upon the Branch Davidians, out
of sight of the American public, as the press cowered like sheep, out on
the fringes. Each day, the FBI gave us "The Truth", as told by the FBI,
and the news media dutifully lapped it up and spread it throughout the
country, poisoning the minds of people across the country, just as the FBI
intended. FBI Agents Jeff Jamar and Ricks, you are murderers.
Did any of the news media ever challenge how the BATF might have any
jurisdiction at all over "child molesting" allegations? Or their authority
to bring in two cattle trailers full of armed men, who threw grendades at
the front door and went in shooting at women and children on a Sunday
morning? Each of you in the media, who didn't question, who didn't
challenge, who didn't know enough about the Constitution of this country to
even ask an intelligent question, each of you are murderers.
One or two persons asked decent questions at the press conference.
Lewis Beam, a former KKK grand dragon and political activist, and a
reporter from Soldier of Fortune Magazine, were kicked out of the press
conference for doing so. Lewis Beam was arrested. His crime? Asking "Is
this the beginning of gestapo tactics and martial law in this country?" at
the press conference.
Two other known "trouble makers" (this author included), were prevented
from entering the press conference, despite valid press credentials. In
fact, later that day, I was detained, as a BATF agent at a road block
pointed a machine gun at me and my partner, John Baird, and our credentials
were stolen. My crime? I had filed a lawsuit on behalf of the Branch
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And, for all the unasked questions: No, it is not illegal to own a
machine gun in this country. Even if the Branch Davidians had a machine
gun, which it now appears they did not, if it was "illegal" it merely meant
that a $200 tax had not been paid on it. All it takes to legally own a
machine gun in this country is to pay a $200 tax and fill out a form 4.
The BATF is supposed to check that those taxes have been paid.
Neighbors we have spoken with who have known the Branch Davidians for 15
years described them as "good samaritan" types who helped their neighbors
and were kind and friendly. Normal people, good neighbors. The kind of
folks you'd probably rather have living around you than the thugs who
commit the drive-by shootings, rapes, and robberies, for instance.
Calling a religion a "cult" and putting out false information across the
media about "child molesting" and "weapons caches" is exactly the same
technique that was used by the Nazis to portray the Jews as filthy,
disgusing people, so they could be killed. It is the same technique used by
every tyrannical government, to kill an unpopular and potentially vocal
adversarial group. But in this country, we are supposed to have freedom of
religion. It would seem that is a pipe dream.
We have three confirmed reported citings of trainloads of U.N. tanks
going into Portland, Oregon, over the past few weeks, and troop movements
of unmarked military vehicles across the nation. Perhaps you might want to
ponder the significance of these events. And tonight, Peter Jennings, in
yet another "made for propaganda" ABC News TV special, gave a full and
impartial (not) accounting of events by having those bastions of integrity,
Kisser, of the Cult Awareness Network, and a former Branch Davidian, give
us "insight" into how Branch Davidians and "all cults" think. As if they
know. Peter Jennings twice said tonight, that "there are more than 100
cults across the country and this is a warning of things to come."
Paul Fatta, a Branch Davidian, held a Class III dealer's license. That
meant that he could legally own, sell, and buy, any type of gun. It is
thus highly unlikely that there were any "illegal" guns in the center at
all. And who is responsible for issuing these permits? The BATF. They
knew Paul Fatta had a license.
Paul Fatta was not at the Mt. Carmel Center the day the BATF assaulted
the Branch Davidians. Nonetheless, he is now listed on the FBI's "10 Most
Wanted" list as "armed and dangerous." This gives the government the
ability to shoot him on sight and then claim he was a "fleeing felon." It
is, in otherwords, a license for the government to kill, again. To bury the
best evidence against them, again.
David Koresh had a message for the world. He wasn't holding out to
commit suicide. He didn't hold anyone hostage. He wanted to give what he
believed was a gift to the world. He believed he held the secret to the
seven seals, spoken of in Revelations. He wanted to offer what he knew for
anyone who could hear it, believing he had a duty to offer it to help save
the souls of those who did not know. He wanted the time to write it down,
which he had to do in candlelight, using a manual typewriter, on scraps of
paper.
He sent a message to the FBI telling them this. He also sent messages,
Bible scriptures, that said that God would send his holy armies to smite
his enemies.
That much may be true. The Waco massacre has awakened Americans all
across the nation to what is horribly wrong in this country. A voice of
unity is being heard, growing louder each day. Interstingly, the day the
Branch Davidians were murdered is also the anniversary of the ride of Paul
Revere.
We have seen our leaders on the television, lying to us with straight
faces, offering justifications for this carnage, as if there could ever be
any possible moral explanation or excuse that could be enough. That the
people offering these excuses are morally bankrupt and corrupt, should be
obvious. A simple, "We're sorry" would at least show a glimmer of common
decency and humanity, but those words have never crossed any of their lips.
And each of them, Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, William Sessions, and Lloyd
Bentsen, are murderers.
So, America, we have cold-blooded killers running our country. Isn't it
about time you put down your beer, get up off the sofa, and do something
about it?
Linda Thompson American Justice Federation 317-780-5204
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Personally, I am INFURIATED....if this post is true...I think it should
be U/L'ed toevery board as a text file and attention called to it in all
related message bases ....Maybe, just Maybe the wrongful parties in our
gov't will think twice before trampling the Rights of the people it
represents... ---